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High Cortisol, High Visceral Fat, Low Thyroid - Hidden Link Discovered
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High Cortisol, High Visceral Fat, Low Thyroid - Hidden Link Discovered

Thomas DeLauer
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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High cortisol levels can lead to low thyroid function, even if standard lab tests appear normal, by interfering with the conversion of inactive T4 to active T3 and promoting reverse T3.

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This thyroid dysfunction, often linked with high visceral fat and fatty liver, can cause metabolic slowdown, weight gain, and sluggishness.

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Combat this by strategically timing stressors (like intense exercise, cold plunges, saunas, red light therapy) to the morning when cortisol is naturally high, and reducing overall stress throughout the day.

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Support thyroid conversion and liver health through dietary choices like beef liver, Brazil nuts, oysters, cruciferous vegetables, and supplements like milk thistle, TMG, glycine, and omega-3s.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Reduce Intense Exercise Volume

WhatIf you are already exercising intensely and not seeing results, consider reducing the volume of your workouts.
For whomIndividuals who are already exercising but not achieving desired results, especially those with suspected high cortisol.
WhyToo much intense exercise can act as a stressor, contributing to high cortisol levels, which can hinder metabolic progress.
CaveatsThis advice is for those already exercising; if you are sedentary, any exercise is better than none.

The speaker suggests that for individuals who are already engaged in regular, intense exercise but are not seeing the expected results, particularly in terms of weight loss or metabolic improvement, reducing the volume of their workouts might be beneficial. He frames exercise as a 'stressor' and advocates for a 'pulsing fashion rather than a pressure fashion' approach. This means incorporating quick, intense bursts of exercise followed by adequate recovery, rather than consistently pushing high volumes. The rationale is that too much intense exercise can contribute to chronically elevated cortisol, which, as previously discussed, can negatively impact thyroid function and overall metabolism, counteracting the intended benefits of exercise.

Mechanism

Excessive exercise can elevate cortisol, and chronic high cortisol can negatively impact thyroid function and fat metabolism. Reducing volume allows for better recovery and prevents over-stressing the system.

If you're doing it and you're finding it's not working, if you're not exercising at all, I would say a lot of exercise is better than none. But if you're already exercising, you're not seeing the results, you may actually want to try reducing the volume a little bit.

Also said
“So you want to think about it in a pulsing fashion rather than a pressure fashion. Quick pulses of exercise and then recovery.”— Clarifies the recommended approach to exercise intensity and recovery.

Lower Morning Carbohydrate Intake

WhatKeep carbohydrate intake lower in the morning.
WhenMorning
For whomIndividuals who are metabolically dysfunctional or experiencing issues with weight and energy.
WhyCombining high cortisol (naturally high in the morning) with insulin spikes from carbohydrates can be problematic, especially for those with metabolic dysfunction.
Mechanism

Cortisol naturally elevates in the morning to provide energy. Introducing carbohydrates at this time can lead to an insulin spike. The combination of high cortisol and high insulin can be detrimental, particularly for those with metabolic issues, potentially promoting fat storage.

Another quick dietary thing you want to do is you want to keep your carbohydrates lower in the morning because cortisol is high in the morning. Cortisol becomes problematic if you combine cortisol with insulin.

Consume Beef Liver

WhatEat beef liver.
WhenWeekly
DoseOne to two ounces per week
WhyBeef liver is a nutrient-dense food that specifically aids in the T4 to T3 conversion process.
Mechanism

Beef liver is rich in nutrients that support liver function and the enzymatic processes required for converting inactive T4 into active T3, which is crucial for metabolic health.

If you actually eat one or two ounces of beef liver a week, you can aid the T4 to T3 conversion. It is one of the most nutrient-dense foods on the planet, and it specifically has roles in T4 to T3 conversion.

Morning Sun Exposure

WhatGet morning sun exposure.
WhenMorning
WhySunlight and thyroid hormone work synergistically to support overall thyroid function.
Mechanism

While not explicitly detailed, the speaker implies that morning sun exposure positively influences the body's natural rhythms and hormonal balance, which in turn supports thyroid hormone production and conversion.

Additionally, even morning sun can help out this whole process. Sunlight and thyroid hormone do work very synergistically.

Cycle Milk Thistle

WhatSupplement with milk thistle.
WhenOn and off cycles
Dose3-4 weeks on, 3-4 weeks off
WhyMilk thistle can support liver health, which is crucial for T4 to T3 conversion, especially if the liver is fatty.
Mechanism

Milk thistle is known for its hepatoprotective properties, helping to detoxify and support the liver. A healthy liver is essential for the efficient conversion of inactive T4 to active T3.

Milk thistle can be very good here. Cycle it on and off. 3 to four weeks of milk thistle on, three to four weeks off.

Supplement with Trimethylglycine (TMG) / Betaine

WhatTake Trimethylglycine (TMG), also known as Betaine.
Dose2-4 grams
WhyTMG helps reduce stress on the liver, which is vital for thyroid hormone conversion.
Mechanism

TMG is a methyl donor that supports various metabolic processes, including detoxification pathways in the liver. By assisting the liver, it indirectly supports the conversion of T4 to T3.

Trimethyl glycine, two to four grams of trimethlycine, TMG or betane can help take a lot of stress off the liver.

Increase Morning Protein Intake

WhatIncrease protein levels early in the morning.
WhenMorning
WhyHigh morning protein helps regulate hunger hormones by signaling to the hypothalamus that biological protein needs are met, potentially overriding cortisol-stimulated hunger.

The speaker highlights that high cortisol levels can stimulate hunger hormones, leading to increased appetite. To counteract this, he recommends front-loading protein intake early in the morning. The rationale is that the hypothalamus, a part of the brain, is sensitive to protein levels and can 'read' the body's protein threshold. By consuming sufficient protein early, the hypothalamus receives a signal that the body's biological protein needs have been met, which can significantly reduce overall hunger and cravings throughout the day, thereby helping to manage cortisol-induced appetite.

Mechanism

The hypothalamus monitors protein intake. By front-loading protein in the morning, it signals satiety and reduces the urge to eat more, counteracting the hunger-stimulating effects that high cortisol can have.

Our hypothalamus can read our protein threshold and see where we're at. So if you increase your protein levels in the morning, it can help you out significantly there because it makes it so your hypothalamus says, "Oh, we don't need to eat as much because they already met their biological needs of protein."

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Hidden Link Between High Cortisol and Low Thyroid Function

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New research indicates that elevated cortisol levels can directly cause low thyroid function by inhibiting the conversion of inactive T4 to active T3, a condition often missed by standard lab tests.

Why this matters: This discovery explains why individuals might experience symptoms of low thyroid (weight gain, sluggishness) despite normal blood test results, highlighting a previously unrecognized mechanism.

Background

Traditionally, low thyroid is diagnosed via TSH levels. While high cortisol was known to decrease TSH, this new finding reveals a direct impact on the conversion process of thyroid hormones, leading to functional hypothyroidism.

The speaker highlights a new study published in JRSM Cardiovascular Disease that uncovers a critical, often overlooked, mechanism by which high cortisol impacts thyroid function. Beyond simply decreasing TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone), which signals the brain to produce thyroid, high cortisol directly interferes with the enzyme 5-deiodinase. This enzyme is crucial for converting the inactive thyroid hormone T4 into its active form, T3. When this conversion is hindered, the body produces reverse T3, which blocks T3 receptors, effectively preventing the active hormone from binding and exerting its metabolic effects. This means a person can have seemingly normal or even high T3 levels in their blood tests, yet still suffer from symptoms of low thyroid due to this binding issue, making it a 'hidden' form of hypothyroidism.

And there's brand new research that's showing that high levels of cortisol can trigger us into a state of low thyroid through an interesting mechanism that I'll explain in a minute. But the crazy thing is it can never show up on a lab test.

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“What this enzyme does is it helps convert what's called inactive T4 into the usable thyroid hormone.”— Explains the role of 5-deiodinase in thyroid hormone activation.
“Reverse T3 does just like it sounds. It sort of does the opposite of T3 and it's a protective mechanism and it kind of blocks the receptor so that T3 cannot bind.”— Details the problematic role of reverse T3 in preventing active thyroid hormone function.

Cortisol's Direct Communication with Mitochondria and Fat Cells

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Cortisol is not just a stress hormone but directly communicates with mitochondria and fat cells via glucocorticoid receptors, influencing metabolism and fat storage.

Why this matters: This expands the understanding of cortisol's role beyond general stress response, emphasizing its direct cellular impact on energy production and fat distribution.

Background

Many perceive cortisol solely as a stress hormone that causes weight gain. However, its intricate interaction with cellular components like mitochondria and fat cells reveals a deeper regulatory function.

The speaker emphasizes that cortisol's role extends far beyond simply being a 'stress hormone.' He points out that cortisol is deeply intertwined with mitochondrial function, directly communicating with these cellular powerhouses. Furthermore, fat cells possess glucocorticoid receptors that specifically 'listen' for cortisol signals, indicating that cortisol directly dictates how fat cells behave and where fat is stored. This direct communication highlights cortisol's profound influence on metabolic processes and fat accumulation, particularly around the midsection, which is a common area for visceral fat storage.

People don't realize that. They think it's just this stress hormone that makes us gain weight, but it communicates with our mitochondria. It literally communicates with our fat cells.

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“We have glucocorticoid receptors in our fat that are listening exactly for cortisol to yell at them and tell them what to do.”— Highlights the direct signaling mechanism between cortisol and fat cells.

Visceral Fat as a Proxy for Fatty Liver

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High visceral fat is often an indicator of fatty liver, which impairs the liver's ability to convert T4 to T3, further exacerbating low thyroid issues.

Why this matters: This connects visceral fat accumulation directly to thyroid hormone conversion problems, suggesting that addressing liver health is crucial for thyroid function.

Background

Visceral fat is known to be metabolically unhealthy. This insight links it specifically to liver function and its impact on thyroid hormone activation.

The speaker draws a crucial connection between high visceral fat and liver health, stating that high visceral fat is often a 'proxy for high fatty liver.' He explains that when the liver accumulates fat, its function is compromised, directly impacting its ability to convert inactive T4 into active T3. Since 60% of thyroid hormone conversion occurs in the liver, a fatty or impaired liver significantly hinders this process. This creates a vicious cycle where high cortisol leads to visceral fat, which leads to fatty liver, which then impairs thyroid conversion, contributing to metabolic slowdown and further weight gain.

Did you know that high visceral fat is often times just a proxy for high fatty liver? We store fat around the liver and it begins to expand into the visceral regions surrounding our organs.

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“So if the liver is fatty, the liver is not functioning as well and the liver is having a hard time converting T4 and the T3.”— Directly links fatty liver to impaired T4 to T3 conversion.
“But 60% of our thyroid hormone is converted in the liver.”— Emphasizes the liver's critical role in thyroid hormone metabolism.

Stacking Cortisol Stressors for Fat Burning

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Instead of avoiding all stressors, strategically 'stack' acute stressors like intense workouts, cold plunges, and saunas in the morning when cortisol is naturally high. This promotes fat burning, whereas chronic high cortisol has the opposite effect.

Why this matters: This is a contrarian approach to stress management, suggesting that acute, timed stress can be beneficial for metabolism, rather than always detrimental.

Background

Conventional wisdom often advises minimizing all forms of stress to reduce cortisol. This new perspective differentiates between acute, timed stressors and chronic stress.

The speaker introduces a counterintuitive but research-backed strategy for managing cortisol: 'stacking' stressors. He explains that while chronic high cortisol is detrimental, acute spikes in cortisol, particularly when aligned with the body's natural circadian rhythm (i.e., in the morning), can actually promote fat burning. The idea is to consolidate activities that elevate cortisol, such as intense workouts, cold plunges, intervals, saunas, and red light therapy, into the morning hours. This creates acute, beneficial cortisol spikes that the body can recover from, rather than spreading stressors throughout the day, which leads to chronically elevated cortisol and desensitization, ultimately hindering fat loss and metabolic function.

You actually want to stack your cortisol stressors. So, if you know that you are high cortisol in the morning, which we all are, well, if things are working right, then you want to do your workouts, your cold plunges, your intervals, your sauna as much as you can in the morning.

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“The research is very clear. Acute spikes in cortisol help you burn fat. Chronic levels do the opposite. They desensitize the whole process.”— Provides the scientific rationale for stacking stressors.
“So, the most important thing, consolidating and stacking your stressors.”— Reiterates the core principle of this cortisol management strategy.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Oysters

Product

A whole food source for zinc, which is beneficial for thyroid health and T4 to T3 conversion.

If you're looking for zinc, go over things like oysters and good quality grass-fed, grass-finish beef.

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Grass-fed, Grass-finish Beef

Product

A whole food source for zinc, important for thyroid function.

If you're looking for zinc, go over things like oysters and good quality grass-fed, grass-finish beef.

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Brazil Nuts

Product

A whole food source for selenium, beneficial for thyroid health and T4 to T3 conversion.

for selenium. Still the good oldfashioned like one or two Brazil nuts, right? That's going to help you out.

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Cruciferous Vegetables (e.g., Broccoli for Sulfurophane)

Product

Good sources of sulfurophane, which aids the liver's detoxification process.

Sulfurophane from broccoli, really good cruciferous vegetables, that sulfurophane can help sort of the liver do its detoxification process.

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Glycine

Supplement

Helps the body create glutathione, reducing pressure on the liver.

A little bit of glycine can help the body create glutathione, which takes some pressure off the liver.

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Omega-3s

Supplement

Reduce inflammation around thyroid receptors, allowing T3 to bind more easily.

Omega-3s reduce the inflammation that surrounds the receptors, so then the T3 can actually bind to the receptor easier.

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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If there's legitimately one thing that can bring your metabolism to a screeching halt, making it easier to gain weight, making you feel sluggish, making you feel just like that fire isn't burning, it's low thyroid levels.
Emphasizes the profound impact of low thyroid on metabolism and overall well-being, setting the stage for the video's topic.
But what if this was happening to you and you had all these feelings of it, but you get lab work done and it doesn't show anything's wrong? That is frustrating.
Highlights the core problem addressed by the new research: the disconnect between symptoms and conventional lab results for thyroid issues.
Cortisol becomes problematic if you combine cortisol with insulin.
Provides a concise and impactful statement about a key metabolic interaction that can lead to issues.
You actually want to stack your cortisol stressors. So, if you know that you are high cortisol in the morning, which we all are, well, if things are working right, then you want to do your workouts, your cold plunges, your intervals, your sauna as much as you can in the morning.
Presents a counterintuitive but scientifically supported strategy for managing cortisol and leveraging its acute effects for fat burning.
The research is very clear. Acute spikes in cortisol help you burn fat. Chronic levels do the opposite. They desensitize the whole process.
Clearly differentiates between beneficial acute cortisol spikes and detrimental chronic cortisol, providing the scientific basis for the 'stacking' strategy.

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Topics covered

low thyroid levelshigh cortisolvisceral fatmetabolismweight gainsluggishnessthyroid stimulating hormone (tsh)t4 to t3 conversion5-deiodinase enzymereverse t3thyroid receptorsexercise volumecarbohydrate intakedietary strategieszincseleniumbeef liverbrazil nutsmorning sunfatty liver
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