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New Study Says I Was Wrong About NMN and NR?
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New Study Says I Was Wrong About NMN and NR?

Brad Stanfield
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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A new human study's buried data reveals that both NR and NMN are broken down into cheap nicotinic acid by gut bacteria, making the entire NMN vs NR debate irrelevant.

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A 2025 meta-analysis of 10 RCTs found no significant improvements in muscle strength, gait speed, or metabolic markers from NR or NMN in older adults.

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In a long COVID trial, NR tripled blood NAD but produced zero improvement in fatigue, sleep, anxiety, or depression.

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The speaker now uses inexpensive nicotinamide in his own supplement and points to regular exercise as the most powerful NAD-supporting intervention.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Use Inexpensive Nicotinamide for Vitamin B3 Needs

WhatMeet daily vitamin B3 requirements using inexpensive nicotinamide (or nicotinic acid) instead of costly NR or NMN supplements.
WhenDaily, as part of baseline nutrition.
DoseNot specified; implies standard RDA levels achievable for a few dollars per month.
For whomAnyone considering NAD precursor supplementation for longevity or health.
WhyNR and NMN are broken down by gut bacteria into nicotinic acid before impacting NAD, so directly supplementing nicotinamide or nicotinic acid is equally effective and far cheaper.
CaveatsNone mentioned; the speaker frames it as a straightforward replacement.

The speaker builds the case that the entire NR vs NMN debate is moot because both compounds are pro-drugs for nicotinic acid. Three independent research groups have confirmed that gut bacteria rapidly convert NR and NMN to nicotinic acid. Even intravenous administration results in biliary excretion back to the gut for bacterial conversion. Since the body ultimately uses cheap vitamin B3 to make NAD, there is no biochemical advantage to paying a premium for NR or NMN. The speaker's personal decision to include nicotinamide in his own supplement reflects this evidence. He emphasizes that meeting baseline B3 requirements is sufficient, and that the supplement industry's narrative of superior absorption is not supported by human data.

Mechanism

Oral NR and NMN are not absorbed directly into cells. Gut bacteria convert them to nicotinic acid, which is then absorbed and enters the Preiss-Handler pathway to synthesize NAD. Nicotinamide and nicotinic acid are direct forms of vitamin B3 that feed the same pathway without the need for bacterial conversion, making them functionally equivalent to the expensive precursors.

Personal experience

I deliberately chose to include nicotinamide, a simple, inexpensive form of vitamin B3 in micro vitamin.

Your body just needs to meet its baseline vitamin B3 requirements.

Also said
“So here is what's actually happening when you take a $60 bottle of NMN or NR. Your gut bacteria first break it down into nicotinic acid, a form of vitamin B3, which you could buy for a few bucks a month, and then your body rebuilds that nicotinic acid into NAD through the Preiss-Handler pathway.”— Directly explains the cost disparity and biochemical equivalence.
“The human data simply does not support paying expensive premiums to artificially super load your NAD pathways when it isn't translating into functional benefit.”— Reinforces that the premium is unjustified by outcomes.

Regular Exercise for NAD and Longevity

WhatEngage in regular exercise to support NAD levels and overall longevity.
WhenConsistently, as part of a lifestyle routine.
DoseNot specified; the speaker emphasizes regularity and contrasts it with supplement use.
For whomEveryone, particularly those concerned about age-related NAD decline.
WhyExercise is one of the most powerful interventions for maintaining NAD levels and is the most evidence-based longevity practice available.
CaveatsNone mentioned.

After dismantling the case for expensive NAD precursors, the speaker pivots to exercise as the real solution. He notes that the supplement industry wants consumers fighting over a $60/month vitamin B3 product, while ignoring a free intervention with far stronger evidence. Exercise not only supports NAD but is the most powerful longevity intervention known. The contrast is stark: decades of clinical trials have failed to show that raising NAD with pills improves any functional outcome, whereas exercise consistently improves muscle strength, metabolism, and healthspan. The speaker urges viewers to check out his next video on exercise evidence, positioning it as the actionable takeaway from the entire NAD discussion.

Mechanism

The speaker cites a 2022 study showing that exercise-trained older adults maintain muscle NAD levels comparable to younger individuals, suggesting that physical activity preserves NAD metabolism with age. While the exact molecular mechanisms are not detailed, the implication is that exercise induces metabolic adaptations that sustain NAD pools naturally, without the need for supplementation.

One of the most powerful things that we know of for supporting NAD levels is regular exercise. And it happens to be the most powerful longevity intervention that we know of.

Also said
“The supplement industry wants you fighting over a premium form of vitamin B3 worth about $60 a month. Meanwhile, one of the most powerful things that we know of for supporting NAD levels is regular exercise.”— Frames the choice between expensive supplements and free, effective exercise.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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The Bergen study's NAAD metabolite data shows that both NR and NMN supplementation elevates NAAD, a marker exclusive to the Preiss-Handler pathway, proving they are first broken down to nicotinic acid.

Why this matters: This is the finding that Brenner omitted when promoting the study; it undercuts the entire premise that NR or NMN enter cells directly as premium NAD precursors.

Background

For years, the supplement industry has marketed NR and NMN as direct NAD precursors that bypass the body's normal vitamin B3 pathways. Charles Brenner, who discovered NR, has argued that NMN must first convert to NR to enter cells, positioning NR as superior. The Bergen study initially seemed to support NR's advantage.

The Bergen study gave 6 healthy adults 1,200 mg/day of both NR and NMN in a crossover design. While the headline result was a 2.3-fold higher blood NAD increase from NR, the researchers also tracked a panel of NAD metabolites. One metabolite, NAAD, is a landmark that only appears when NAD is synthesized via the Preiss-Handler pathway starting from nicotinic acid. After two weeks of supplementation, NAAD levels were significantly elevated in both NR and NMN groups. This metabolic fingerprint demonstrates that neither NR nor NMN is directly converted to NAD inside cells; instead, both are first broken down to plain nicotinic acid—a cheap form of vitamin B3—and then rebuilt into NAD through the Preiss-Handler pathway. The finding aligns with three independent research groups' work showing gut bacteria are responsible for this conversion. The speaker argues that this buried data makes the entire NMN vs NR debate beside the point, as both supplements end up as the same inexpensive molecule before affecting NAD levels.

But the significant presence of NAAD after supplementation acts as a fingerprint. It tells you that NR and NMN are both broken down. They're converted first into cheap nicotinic acid and then rebuilt into NAD through a pathway called the Preiss-Handler pathway.

Also said
“So if NR was going straight from your digestive tract into the bloodstream and then into your cells directly and then getting converted straight into NAD, which is what the supplement industry would try and make you believe, you would never see NAAD appear at all.”— Clarifies why NAAD's presence is a direct contradiction to the industry narrative.
“Both of them are like buying a first-class ticket only to end up sitting in the same economy seat.”— Memorable analogy summarizing the futility of the NR vs NMN debate.

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Three independent human studies now confirm that oral NR is broken down to nicotinic acid by gut bacteria, not absorbed directly.

Why this matters: This shifts the evidence from mouse models to humans, silencing earlier pushback and validating the mechanism that makes expensive NAD precursors redundant.

Background

In 2023, the speaker covered a Princeton mouse study showing that isotope-labeled NR was converted to nicotinic acid by gut bacteria, and that antibiotics eliminated this conversion. At the time, critics argued the evidence was only in mice.

Since the 2023 video, two more independent groups have confirmed the gut conversion pathway in animals and now in humans. A 2025 Japanese study showed that even when NMN or NR is injected intravenously to bypass the gut, the body dumps it into bile, sending it back to the gut where bacteria convert it to nicotinic acid. The Christian study (the 65-person trial published in Nature Metabolism) took fecal samples from healthy adults, exposed them to NR in a lab dish, and watched the bacteria rapidly convert it to nicotinic acid. Together with the Princeton isotope work, these findings establish that the main route from oral NR to increased NAD is through bacterial breakdown to nicotinic acid, followed by absorption and rebuilding via the Preiss-Handler pathway. This means that both NR and NMN are effectively pro-drugs for cheap nicotinic acid, not direct cellular NAD precursors as marketed.

Personal experience

I did a whole video about this back in 2023 and back then the evidence was mostly from mice and a lot of people pushed back. But since then, two more independent groups have confirmed the same thing in animals and now in humans.

In 2022, researchers at Princeton used isotope-labeled NR... the main route from taking NR orally and impacting NAD levels is through first being broken down into nicotinic acid by bacteria in the gut. And when they gave antibiotics to deplete the gut bacteria, NR-derived nicotinic acid was, and I'm quoting directly here, completely eliminated.

Also said
“In 2025, a Japanese group went even further. They showed that even when you inject NMN or NR intravenously to completely bypass the gut, the body just dumps it into bile and then sends it straight back to the gut and then the bacteria converts it into nicotinic acid.”— Shows that even IV administration doesn't escape gut bacterial conversion.
“And the Christian study, which is the 65-person one, confirmed this in actual human gut samples. They took fecal samples from healthy adults, exposed them to NR in a lab dish, and then watched the bacteria rapidly convert it to nicotinic acid.”— Direct human ex vivo evidence for the conversion.

nad-boosting-shows-no-functional-benefit

Meta-analyses of RCTs and a long COVID trial show that raising NAD with NR or NMN does not improve muscle strength, metabolism, or symptoms.

Why this matters: After 20 years and dozens of trials, this is the strongest evidence yet that boosting blood NAD does not translate into noticeable health benefits, challenging the entire premise of NAD precursor supplementation.

Background

The longevity field has long assumed that declining NAD with age contributes to dysfunction, and that restoring NAD with precursors like NR or NMN would improve health. Preclinical studies in mice showed promising results, but human trials have been mixed.

A 2025 meta-analysis pooled 10 randomized controlled trials of NMN and NR in adults over 60—the population that should benefit most if the NAD-decline theory is correct. It found no significant improvements in skeletal muscle index, handgrip strength, gait speed, or chair stand tests. The authors concluded that despite positive preclinical findings, the effects are negligible. A separate meta-analysis on metabolic outcomes found no significant improvements in fasting glucose, insulin, HbA1c, cholesterol, or triglycerides, despite confirmed increases in blood NAD. To test whether NAD boosting might help under conditions of metabolic strain, researchers gave NR to about 60 long COVID patients for 20 weeks. Blood NAD tripled, but there was no difference between NR and placebo in fatigue, sleep quality, anxiety, or depression. The speaker argues that if NAD boosting were ever going to show a functional benefit, long COVID was the ideal test, and it failed. This body of evidence suggests that raising blood NAD is not a meaningful therapeutic strategy for age-related decline or illness.

If we were ever going to see a functional benefit from boosting NAD, long COVID was the test and it failed.

Also said
“A 2025 meta-analysis pulled 10 randomized controlled trials of NMN and NR in adults over the age of 60... The results were stark. There were no significant improvements in skeletal muscle index, in handgrip strength, in gait speed, or chair stand tests.”— Quantifies the lack of benefit in the most relevant population.
“NMN and NR, yes, they reliably raise blood NAD. No one disputes that. But after 20 years and dozens of clinical trials, we still cannot show that raising blood NAD levels translates into anything that you would actually notice.”— Summarizes the disconnect between biomarker change and functional outcome.

exercise-preserves-nad-levels-with-age

A 2022 study found that exercise-trained older adults had muscle NAD levels similar to younger people, suggesting NAD decline is not inevitable.

Why this matters: It challenges the narrative that NAD inevitably declines with age and positions exercise as a natural, cost-free way to maintain NAD.

Background

The marketing of NAD precursors often relies on the claim that NAD levels drop with age, creating a need for supplementation. This study offers a counterpoint: lifestyle may be a more powerful determinant.

The speaker cites a 2022 study showing that older adults who are exercise-trained maintain NAD levels in their muscles comparable to those of younger individuals. This implies that the age-related decline in NAD is not a fixed biological inevitability but can be modulated by physical activity. Combined with the lack of functional benefits from pharmacological NAD boosting, this finding reinforces the speaker's argument that exercise is a superior intervention for supporting NAD and overall longevity. It also undercuts the urgency to supplement with expensive precursors when a free, well-evidenced alternative exists.

And it's worth remembering that it's not even obvious that NAD declines inevitably with age. So a 2022 study found that exercise-trained older adults had NAD levels in their muscles similar to younger people.

personal-shift-to-inexpensive-nicotinamide

The speaker now deliberately includes inexpensive nicotinamide in his own supplement instead of premium NAD precursors.

Why this matters: It's a concrete personal practice change based on the evidence that NR and NMN are just expensive ways to get nicotinic acid.

Background

Previously, the speaker may have been open to NR or NMN, but the accumulating human data on gut conversion and lack of functional benefit led him to reformulate his approach.

The speaker states that he deliberately chose to include nicotinamide, a simple and inexpensive form of vitamin B3, in his product 'micro vitamin'. This decision is directly informed by the evidence that NR and NMN are broken down to nicotinic acid before affecting NAD, and that meeting baseline vitamin B3 requirements is sufficient. He contrasts this with the supplement industry's promotion of $60/month premium forms. This personal shift serves as a practical recommendation for listeners: rather than paying for expensive NAD precursors, one can use cheap nicotinamide or nicotinic acid and focus on exercise.

Personal experience

I deliberately chose to include nicotinamide, a simple, inexpensive form of vitamin B3 in micro vitamin.

I deliberately chose to include nicotinamide, a simple, inexpensive form of vitamin B3 in micro vitamin.

Also said
“The human data simply does not support paying expensive premiums to artificially super load your NAD pathways when it isn't translating into functional benefit. Your body just needs to meet its baseline vitamin B3 requirements.”— Explains the rationale behind the personal choice.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Regular Exercise for Longevity and NAD Support

Practice

The speaker presents exercise as the most powerful, evidence-based intervention for supporting NAD levels and overall longevity, contrasting it with ineffective supplements.

After reviewing the failure of NR and NMN to produce functional benefits in clinical trials, the speaker emphasizes that regular exercise is not only free but also the most robust longevity intervention available. He cites a study showing that exercise-trained older adults maintain youthful NAD levels, implying that physical activity naturally preserves NAD metabolism. This recommendation is positioned as the key takeaway: instead of spending money on premium vitamin B3, people should invest time in regular exercise. The speaker teases a follow-up video with more evidence on exercise, reinforcing its importance.

vs alternatives

Compared to NR or NMN supplementation, which shows no functional benefits despite raising blood NAD, exercise consistently improves muscle strength, metabolic health, and longevity outcomes.

One of the most powerful things that we know of for supporting NAD levels is regular exercise. And it happens to be the most powerful longevity intervention that we know of.

Also said
“The supplement industry wants you fighting over a premium form of vitamin B3 worth about $60 a month. Meanwhile, one of the most powerful things that we know of for supporting NAD levels is regular exercise.”— Directly contrasts the cost and evidence base of supplements vs exercise.
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Avoid Expensive NR and NMN Supplements

Practice

The speaker advises against purchasing premium NAD precursors because they are broken down to cheap nicotinic acid and lack evidence of functional benefit.

The entire video builds toward the conclusion that NR and NMN are not worth their cost. The speaker shows that both are converted to nicotinic acid by gut bacteria, that a larger study found no difference between them, and that meta-analyses and a long COVID trial found no meaningful health improvements despite raising NAD. He explicitly states that the human data does not support paying expensive premiums. This recommendation is the logical endpoint of the evidence review: consumers should stop buying NR and NMN and instead meet their B3 needs inexpensively or focus on exercise.

vs alternatives

Inexpensive nicotinamide or nicotinic acid provides the same NAD precursor effect, and exercise offers proven longevity benefits without cost.

The human data simply does not support paying expensive premiums to artificially super load your NAD pathways when it isn't translating into functional benefit.

Also said
“Both of them are like buying a first-class ticket only to end up sitting in the same economy seat.”— Memorable analogy for the futility of choosing between NR and NMN.
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micro vitamin (containing nicotinamide)

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The speaker uses his own product as an example of applying the evidence: replacing expensive NAD precursors with inexpensive nicotinamide to meet baseline vitamin B3 needs.

DisclosureBrad Stanfield is the creator of micro vitamin and deliberately chose to include nicotinamide in its formulation.

Throughout the video, the speaker builds the case that NR and NMN are broken down to nicotinic acid, making them overpriced versions of basic vitamin B3. He then reveals that he has formulated his own supplement, micro vitamin, to include nicotinamide—a simple, inexpensive form of B3—rather than NR or NMN. This personal product choice serves as a practical endorsement of the evidence. He does not claim that micro vitamin is uniquely effective; rather, he uses it to illustrate that meeting B3 requirements does not require premium precursors. The recommendation is tied to the broader argument that consumers should avoid paying $60/month for NR or NMN when a few dollars' worth of nicotinamide or nicotinic acid suffices.

vs alternatives

Compared to NR and NMN supplements, which cost around $60 per month and are converted to nicotinic acid anyway, micro vitamin's nicotinamide provides the same NAD precursor at a fraction of the cost.

Personal experience

I deliberately chose to include nicotinamide, a simple, inexpensive form of vitamin B3 in micro vitamin.

I deliberately chose to include nicotinamide, a simple, inexpensive form of vitamin B3 in micro vitamin.

Also said
“The human data simply does not support paying expensive premiums to artificially super load your NAD pathways when it isn't translating into functional benefit.”— Justifies the choice of inexpensive nicotinamide over premium precursors.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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Both of them are like buying a first-class ticket only to end up sitting in the same economy seat.
A vivid, memorable analogy that encapsulates the entire NR vs NMN debate being pointless.
If we were ever going to see a functional benefit from boosting NAD, long COVID was the test and it failed.
A stark, definitive statement that undermines the therapeutic promise of NAD boosting.
The supplement industry wants you fighting over a premium form of vitamin B3 worth about $60 a month. Meanwhile, one of the most powerful things that we know of for supporting NAD levels is regular exercise.
Directly contrasts industry marketing with free, evidence-based intervention, highlighting the misallocation of consumer attention.
NMN and NR, yes, they reliably raise blood NAD. No one disputes that. But after 20 years and dozens of clinical trials, we still cannot show that raising blood NAD levels translates into anything that you would actually notice.
Summarizes the core failure of NAD precursor research with a blunt, memorable conclusion.
So Brenner was right about one thing. He said that everyone buying the NMN story is being hoodwinked. But what the last four years of research show us is that the same gut bacteria that eat NMN, they also eat NR and they turn both of them into a vitamin that you can buy for a couple of dollars a month.
Turns Brenner's own argument against him, showing that NR buyers are equally hoodwinked.

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