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Normality has become forbidden. Wojciech Cejrowski mercilessly on contemporary madness.
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Normality has become forbidden. Wojciech Cejrowski mercilessly on contemporary madness.

Cyprian Majcher
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Wojciech Cejrowski claims that his views have not fundamentally changed in 30 years, and with age they only undergo natural radicalization because he has less and less to lose.

2

His controversial statement about Ukrainians as 'rapists and murderers' was explained by him as a call to dissociate from the Volhynia crime, not a literal accusation of every Ukrainian.

3

Cejrowski criticized Donald Trump for revealing 'stinking elements' in his current politics, such as the Epstein list matter and the war in Iran, which distinguishes it from his first, in his opinion perfect, term.

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He advocated for minimizing the role of the state, proposing the liquidation of ministries such as the Ministry of Health, Education, Sport, and Climate, and introducing radical legal solutions, including the delegalization of prostitution and imprisoning homosexuals.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Friday fast

WhatObserving the Catholic Friday fast (abstaining from meat, replacing it with fish or strict fasting).
WhenEvery Friday.
Dose1 day a week.
For whomPracticing Catholics, and according to Cejrowski, beneficial also for non-believers.
WhyNot only a religious obligation but also a health practice – 'One day of fasting a week' is physically healthy. It is also meant to shape habits and social discipline.

Cejrowski, speaking of his 'dictatorship', postulates that the fast should be respected in public space on Friday. This does not mean a ban on other religions but would make life easier for believers and have a positive impact on non-believers. He points to restaurants in Ethiopia that have separate menus for fasting days – and on fasting days they serve only fasting dishes. The lack of meat choice has an educational and disciplinary character.

The mechanism of action here is socio-psychological – imposing an external norm is meant to force the individual out of their comfort zone and try something they would normally not do. In Cejrowski's case, it is fish, which he does not like, but eats it for religious reasons. It is meant to toughen him and teach obedience to higher principles, which is a value in itself for him.

Mechanism

It combines a spiritual aspect (obedience, offering) with a health aspect (intermittent fasting) and a social aspect (cultural uniformity).

Personal experience

I do not like fish and if someone found a way to force me. Well, the Catholic Church forced me, because I have no choice. If I want to eat something, I can eat nothing. That is also healthy.

I would make the Roman Catholic religion the state religion, which does not mean others are forbidden, but it would be easier for me to live in a country where it is respected that on Friday we do not serve meat.

Also said
“This will also help non-believers, because they would be forced to eat fish once a week.”— He emphasizes that he considers this practice universally beneficial, even for non-believers.

Minimization of government

WhatA political system with the smallest possible number of ministries and regulations, where citizens have maximum freedom of choice in matters of health, education, and employment contracts.
WhenOn the scale of the whole social life.
DoseA constant systemic principle.
For whomThe entire society.
WhyThe government is anyway a 'gang of bandits', and the less of it there is, the less it can harm. Individual freedom is the overriding value.
CaveatsCejrowski notes that he is not suited to be a politician in a democracy because he cannot make compromises, so the democratic system is an obstacle to such reforms for him.

It is a comprehensive vision of a state in which the state does not deal with treatment (that is the role of private insurers), education (that is the decision of parents and teachers), sport, or climate. Instead of labor law, there would be voluntary agreements between the employee and the employer, without a minimum wage. Cejrowski argues that the minimum wage blocks the possibility of legally employing people with partial disabilities who would like to work for a lower rate, which reflects their actual productivity. Law and regulations, in his opinion, are the main barrier to development and prosperity.

Mechanism

It is based on the libertarian belief in market self-regulation and individual responsibility.

Personal experience

You know, I cannot legally employ some people, even though they would like to work for me, because labor law blocks us.

The less government, the fewer of these scumbags who ruin your life.

Also said
“Well, I would abolish the Ministry of Health, it is unnecessary. The Ministry of Education is absolutely unnecessary.”— He lists specific institutions for liquidation.

Fighting immigration through deportation and citizen controls

WhatClosing borders through physical blockades with the participation of citizens, document checks by police assisted by a 'citizen militia', and mass deportations of illegal immigrants by ship onto a sandbank off the coast of Africa.
WhenImmediately.
DoseContinuous and mass action.
For whomCitizens of Poland called to blockades, police to controls, government to organize deportations.
WhySo that 'Islam does not come to Poland', and 'Poles drive Ubers'. Immigrants are seen as a threat to social order and security.

Cejrowski describes a specific, almost military operation under the leadership of the president, who would use his address to mobilize 'hooligans and citizens' and favorable generals to block the borders. At the city level, the police together with an armed 'citizen militia' would catch people of 'Hindu-Pakistani appearance', who at 10 a.m. are taking pictures like tourists. There would be a presumption of guilt – suspects would have to prove the legality of their stay.

The method of deportation is deliberately brutal and described as a certain performance – the ship would be wrecked on a sandbank, and the immigrants left to fend for themselves. This is a vivid emphasis of the plan's ruthlessness. The whole thing is based on the assumption that the president can do more than he thinks, because he has authority – just as 'National Reading' is organized, so can 'National Border Blocking' be organized.

Well, we rent some barge, put it in Gdynia, pack them into this barge, and then when it is already full of guys who had no right to be here, the captain takes this barge to Africa and grounds it on a sandbank half a kilometer from the shore in any place.

Also said
“Some guys, sir, of Hindu-Pakistani appearance at 10:00 a.m. are not at any work, they walk and take pictures of various objects, behaving like tourists. Well, a police patrol approaches.”— He describes racial profiling as a basis for control.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Radicalization of views with age

początek rozmowy

Cejrowski declares that his worldview does not change, but only becomes more and more radical due to age and a growing sense of freedom to say what he thinks.

Why this matters: It contradicts the typical pattern of views softening with age. Cejrowski presents radicalization as a natural, not a political process.

Background

Many commentators and the public wonder whether Cejrowski's controversial statements are part of a created image or a real evolution of views.

Cejrowski explains that his views (understood as internal 'convictions') are constant, but new matters, such as taxes, require him to form an opinion from scratch. He uses the metaphor of a 'suit' – the title 'Chief Cowboy of the Republic of Poland' suited the format of the WC Kwadrans broadcast, but does not define his person. His core has remained unchanged for 30 years.

The process of 'natural radicalization' is justified by age. He claims that as a younger man he had more to lose and 'bit his tongue'. Currently, being older, he has nothing left to lose, which makes him a 'full-time fighter'. It is therefore not a conscious change of communication strategy, but an internal consequence of aging.

The key argument is the distinction between changing one's mind about an object (e.g., a restaurant that has deteriorated in quality) and changing one's own fundamental convictions. Cejrowski claims he does not recall a situation of changing the latter, he only formed opinions on matters new to him.

An old man is allowed more, so he can also radicalize in such a way that when he was younger, he had more to lose and bit his tongue more often, and when he is old, he has nothing left to lose and becomes a full-time fighter.

Also said
“I am becoming more and more radical for a simple reason, that due to my age I already have less and less time to get certain things done or to wait for certain things, and a prudent man can radicalize with age.”— He gives a second reason for radicalization - time pressure.
“Nothing has changed here. Mocherka Total, whatever you want, sir.”— He points to the immutability of fundamental views, referring to a well-known pejorative term.

New criticism of Donald Trump

około połowy rozmowy

Cejrowski, known for his support for Trump, announces that he sees 'two, three stinking elements' in his current actions, which make him change his assessment of his presidency.

Why this matters: It is a retreat from the unambiguously positive narrative about Trump that Cejrowski presented for years. He justifies his change by the change in Trump's behavior, not his own stance.

Background

Cejrowski was perceived as a staunch supporter of the MAGA movement and Donald Trump himself.

Cejrowski explains his stance metaphorically: it is not he who changed his mind about Trump, but Trump 'has a very poor season now'. He compares it to evaluating a sports team – last year it was excellent, this year it plays badly, so the assessment is adequate to the current form, and not a change of the general stance.

He points out two key 'dissonances'. The first is the matter of the Epstein list. Cejrowski and his interlocutor, Lisicki, theorize that Trump may have seen the scale of entanglement of American elites and deliberately blocks the publication, afraid of the 'implosion' of the state. The second dissonance is the war in Iran. Cejrowski argues that MAGA voters would be able to forgive him if it were a quick, victorious campaign, but Trump is stuck in a conflict that is inherently impossible to win because the enemies are not afraid of death.

Cejrowski also criticizes dressing Trump in the symbolism of Jesus on the official channel. In his opinion, the old Trump would have covered it up with a joke, the current one 'keeps insisting', claiming he looks 'like a doctor', which according to Cejrowski is a sign of weakness and stupidity.

I observe Trump and when he does good things, I inform you that he does good things. When I noticed that he does bad things, I informed you that he does bad things. This is not a change of my stance towards Trump, but Trump has changed.

Also said
“Once he was different, he was a perfect troll... And even if by accident he had gone too far, posted it at his place... well, the normal Trump of earlier would have said: 'Damn, folks, you are actually right, I look like Jesus' and would have made some joke about it.”— He illustrates a specific change in Trump's behavior using the example of the Jesus meme.
“Well, it is impossible to win with Iran in such a, using such methods as Trump uses, because he frightens them. But death is not frightful to them.”— He presents a substantive critique of Trump's Iran strategy, based on an analysis of the enemy's mentality.

Abdicative dictatorship and liquidation of ministries

druga połowa rozmowy

Cejrowski declares that if he became a dictator, his first act would be to sign his own abdication in 6 months, and in the meantime he would cross out entire ministries.

Why this matters: A specific, radical plan of 'minimizing the state', fitting into the libertarian trend, expressed in the form of the journalistic figure of a 'dictator-abdicant'.

Background

The host referred to the guest's earlier statements about being a dictator.

Cejrowski develops his concept of radically limiting the role of the state. As a dictator with a pre-planned abdication, he sees his mission in dismantling structures he considers unnecessary or harmful.

He lists in order: the Ministry of Health ('absolutely to be liquidated'), justifying that it leads to coercion (like during covid), and treatment is an individual citizen's matter. The health care system would operate on the basis of private insurance, similar to car third-party liability insurance. The Ministry of Education is 'unnecessary', because school is to teach reading and counting, not to shape the citizen. Schools would be completely free and subject to market verification by parents. The Ministry of Sport and the Ministry of Climate are freeloaders – the climate minister cannot 'manage the climate', so his department is a fiction generating costs. The whole plan is based on the assumption that 'the less government, the fewer bandits who ruin your life'.

When some glacier melts, there will be more space for people to, to start a field or build a little house.

Also said
“First of all, the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Education.”— He indicates priorities in liquidation.
“Schools in Poland were better before the ministry was created.”— Justification for the liquidation of the Ministry of Education based on a historical belief.
“More, the less government, the fewer of these scumbags who ruin your life.”— He summarizes the philosophy behind the liquidation of ministries.

Effeminacy of men as an effect of divorces

końcówka rozmowy

Cejrowski diagnoses a social crisis of masculinity, which in his opinion results from the ease of divorce and raising boys by single mothers, depriving them of male role models.

Why this matters: He puts forward a controversial thesis that the emancipation of women on the labor market was a deliberate economic procedure, and not a natural social process, to lower labor costs.

Background

The question concerned the crisis of male attitudes and the difference between being a man in a biological sense and 'awakening the man in oneself'.

Cejrowski argues that divorces, initiated mostly by men looking for a 'younger model', led to a situation where boys are raised only by mothers. The absence of a father in the upbringing process deprives them of the opportunity to learn male patterns of dealing with conflicts, which results in an 'effeminate' generation that learns hysteria from the mother instead of 'gritting teeth' from the father.

He develops the thread of economic causes of feminization. In his opinion, women leaving homes for the labor market was not emancipation but an 'economic procedure' of capitalism. By artificially suppressing the growth of male salaries, a situation was brought about where one salary is not enough for a family. Introducing women to the labor market doubled the labor supply, which lowered everyone's earnings. He points to the 1950s in America as a positive model, where a man earned for the entire household and a woman did not have to work. He postulates a return to a system in which 'for one salary you can support a six-person family', which he calls a program for politicians.

Women, by force of nature, are more emotional than men. Well, because when they give birth to children, they need to communicate through emotions with someone who does not talk to me yet... So we have an effeminate society.

Also said
“What we very often call emancipation, that oh, women left the house, left the kitchen, went to work. It was an economic procedure.”— He presents a revisionist view of women's emancipation as an economically driven movement.
“A man must be awakened in oneself somehow. If we have a father, he awakens the man in us. Stop whining.”— Describes the father's role in shaping masculinity.

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CO2 (Carbon dioxide)

Supplement

The host asks about the climate crisis and CO2 emissions. Cejrowski presents CO2 as a gas beneficial to plants and people.

Cejrowski completely denies the anti-human character of CO2. He uses a personal example of a preference for sparkling water as proof that CO2 is beneficial. Plants 'need CO2', and the melting of glaciers frees up areas for settlement and agriculture, which is a positive for him. His stance is therefore an inversion of the climate catastrophe narrative.

Personal experience

For example, I have sparkling water and it is tastier for me. There are proponents of sparkling water, I am a proponent of sparkling water, so I support CO2 here.

CO2 is beneficial.

Also said
“Plants need CO2.”— He gives biological justification.
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Firearms (any, adapted to the user)

Tool

In the discussion about the limits of freedom, Cejrowski derives the right to possess any firearm from the right to life and self-defense.

It is not only a recommendation but also a philosophy. Cejrowski completely rejects state guarantees of security as an illusion, especially in rural areas. He points to the absurdity of 'calling the police' in a situation of direct threat to life. In his vision, the citizen is to be fully responsible for their own defense, and the state is only not to hinder them in the choice of means. This approach is consistent with his general dislike of state institutions and belief in individual self-determination.

vs alternatives

As an alternative to firearms, he indicates the helplessness and impracticality of relying on the police, who may arrive in 12 minutes, when the family is already dead.

Personal experience

I sit at home in the Bieszczady Mountains and someone breaks in through the window and there are four guys. Well, and the Polish state suggests I pick up the phone receiver then.

That is your business, your life, your temperament and skills, inclinations. If you are tall, you will use different tools than if you are a shorty.

Also said
“So everyone has the right to life, so everyone has the right to choose tools to protect their own life.”— Summarizes the logical conclusion from the right to life.
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Avoiding psychoactive substances to maintain self-control

Practice

The host asks about the legalization of marijuana and intoxication. Cejrowski states that even smoking marijuana or 'microdosing' psilocybin is evil because it takes away free will.

Cejrowski claims he has never smoked anything, not even cigarettes, and has never taken drugs. He has never even tried a joint, and ritual stimulants in the jungle he 'always politely refused'. He calls his attitude 'radically non-smoking'.

He compares the loss of self-control after drugs to the loss of self-control in anger or after alcohol – every such situation is evil. He criticizes so-called 'research' promoting psychedelics as part of a corrupt Big Pharma arrangement that wants to 'sell drugs'. He gives the example of Denver, which after legalizing marijuana became for him a 'disgustingly stinking zombie city' to which he does not want to return.

Personal experience

I have never in my life smoked anything and you have not taken any... I have never lit anything, I have not even had an unlit cigarette in my mouth.

A person should maintain self-control. A psychedelic state is some kind of high when you have lost self-control... All situations where we lose self-control, I judge as bad.

Also said
“I was in Denver before the legalization of marijuana and I was in Denver after, and before the legalization of marijuana I wanted to return to Denver. After the legalization of marijuana, I never want to return to Denver again.”— He gives an empirical, personal argument against the legalization of marijuana.
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Observation of chemtrails and their influence on health

Practice

Cejrowski claims that based on a 10-year observation of a neighbor in Arizona, he concluded that chemtrails negatively affect her well-being.

Cejrowski describes his 'small experiment' as proof of the existence of intentional spraying of chemicals. He observed a correlation between the appearance of streaks in the sky and the neighbor's bad well-being. When the streaks were present, the neighbor felt bad; when the sky was clear, she felt good. He excludes natural condensation trails, arguing that water vapor behaves differently and does 'not disappear for 8 hours'. He compares two planes at the same altitude, one leaving a streak and the other not.

His conclusion is unequivocal: governments 'poison people'. The aim is depopulation or causing diseases. This is a classic conspiracy theory about chemtrails, presented with full conviction and based on informal, long-term observation.

Personal experience

And observing her in a long cycle, I connected it. The first time I thought, maybe it's a coincidence... And now I observe with premeditation and say: 'So how do you feel? Well, today I feel bad'. I look at the sky, okay, the streaks are there.

Well, and after 10 years of observation, such a small experiment with a neighbor, sir, after 10 years of observation, I came to the conclusion that those streaks in the sky... have a negative influence on my neighbor.

Also said
“Water vapor disperses. Why does that [ __ ] not disappear?”— The main argument against the natural origin of the streaks.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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An old man is allowed more, so he can also radicalize in such a way that when he was younger, he had more to lose and bit his tongue more often, and when he is old, he has nothing left to lose and becomes a full-time fighter.
An unconventional, cynical justification of his own controversiality and uncompromisingness.
Love of neighbor very often means you have to beat him up. You have to kick him in the butt.
A provocative definition of 'tough love' in the Christian spirit, undermining the stereotype of benevolent mercy.
When some glacier melts, there will be more space for people to, to start a field or build a little house.
A blunt, cynical response to the problem of melting glaciers, perfectly illustrating his anti-system approach.
What we very often call emancipation, that oh, women left the house, left the kitchen, went to work. It was an economic procedure.
A revisionist, economic analysis of feminism as a capitalist conspiracy, stripping it of any female agency.
You walk through the city. Some guys, sir, of Hindu-Pakistani appearance at 10:00 a.m. are not at any work, they walk and take pictures of various objects, behaving like tourists. Well, a police patrol approaches.
He bluntly describes racial profiling as a desired tool of immigration policy.

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