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375 - The ketogenic diet, ketosis, and hyperbaric oxygen: weight loss, cognition, cancer, and more
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375 - The ketogenic diet, ketosis, and hyperbaric oxygen: weight loss, cognition, cancer, and more

Peter Attia
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Ketogenic diets, especially high-protein, moderate-fat, high-fiber versions, are effective for weight loss and can be therapeutic for conditions like drug-resistant epilepsy and autoimmune disorders.

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Exogenous ketones, particularly ketone salts like Audacious Nutrition's Keto Start, can aid in the transition to ketosis, mitigate side effects, and provide an alternative brain fuel without the liver toxicity or insulin spikes associated with 1,3-butanediol or some ketone esters.

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Hyperbaric oxygen therapy shows promise for acute concussion and TBI, with ongoing rigorous clinical trials, but current protocols require significant time commitment and are not yet FDA-approved for these indications.

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For cancer (especially glioblastoma) and Alzheimer's disease, ketogenic metabolic therapies are being explored as adjuncts to standard care, focusing on achieving a low glucose-ketone index (GKI of 1-4) and targeting glucose and glutamine metabolism, though large-scale RCTs are still needed.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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High-Protein Ketogenic Diet for Weight Loss

WhatA ketogenic diet emphasizing high protein, moderate fat, and high fiber from specific carbohydrate sources.
DoseProtein: 20-30% of calories, potentially 1g per pound of ideal body weight (e.g., 220g for a 220lb active individual). Carbohydrates: 50-100g/day, with at least one-third from fiber. Calories: Track total calories and aim for a 10-20% energy deficit.
For whomIndividuals seeking weight loss, especially those who are active or have high metabolic rates.
WhyHigh protein is satiating and helps preserve muscle mass. Moderate fat provides energy. High fiber carbohydrates (e.g., leafy greens, broccoli) minimize glycemic impact. Caloric restriction is crucial for weight loss, even on a ketogenic diet.
CaveatsRequires diligent tracking of macronutrients and total calories. Lipid levels (LDL, APOB) should be monitored, as they can increase in some individuals. Protein intake needs to be adjusted based on activity level and individual needs to avoid muscle loss.

The speaker advocates for a high-protein ketogenic diet as the most effective approach for weight loss, emphasizing that calories still matter, contrary to some popular beliefs. He recommends a protein intake of 20-30% of total calories, which for an active individual like himself (220 lbs) could mean up to 220 grams per day, significantly higher than the RDA. This high protein intake is crucial for satiety and muscle preservation, especially as one ages. Carbohydrate intake should be kept between 50-100 grams per day, but critically, at least one-third of these carbs must come from fiber (e.g., broccoli, avocado, cucumber, asparagus), avoiding highly glycemic options like carrots or bell peppers. The speaker stresses the importance of tracking total calories and macronutrients, as it's easy to overeat calorically dense foods like macadamia nuts or heavy cream on a ketogenic diet. He believes that creating a 10-20% energy deficit through this diet formulation is the primary lever for weight loss, while the ketogenic aspect provides benefits like increased satiety, reduced appetite, and improved metabolic flexibility.

Mechanism

High protein increases GLP-1, improves insulin sensitivity, and enhances fatty acid oxidation. The diet fundamentally shifts the brain's fuel source from glucose to ketones, which can decrease appetite. Caloric deficit is the primary driver of weight loss.

Personal experience

I learned the lesson that protein was really important. I was thinking ketones would be basically save you know muscle and but they don't they have an anti-catabolic effect that we can talk about but there's nothing you know if your protein goes from like 250 grams a day to like you know 70 to 80 grams a day you're going to lose a lot of muscle and the ketones have just don't tell the USDA that or you know the the RDA they still want you to believe that 08 grams per kilogram uh is all you need.

So I would say calories are super important. So just uh gravitate towards a high protein ketogenic diet. And if it's just purely weight loss, I would say high protein, moderate fat, and then high fiber.

Also said
“The carbohydrates that you're getting uh should be just fibrous carbohydrates. So you can get 50 to even 100 grams of carbs per day if onethird of those carbohydrates are fiber.”— Specifies the type and quantity of carbohydrates recommended.
“I learned that uh uh clinical ketogenic diet skyrockets my LDL and APOB and that's an I've learned how to manage that pharmacologically.”— Highlights a personal caveat and the need for lipid monitoring.
“And I think that people that are not losing weight or managing whatever they're trying to manage with a ketogenic diet, they need to track calories and simple caloric restriction or creating even like a 10 or 20% energy deficit will be the big lever that's going to cure 90% of what most people are seeking the ketogenic diet for.”— Emphasizes the critical role of caloric restriction for weight loss.

Carnivore Diet for Autoimmune Disorders

WhatA highly restrictive diet consisting primarily of meat and animal products, often used as an ultimate elimination diet.
For whomIndividuals with autoimmune disorders or those seeking an extreme elimination diet.
WhyCan be therapeutic for individuals with autoimmune disorders by eliminating potential dietary triggers. It provides sufficient protein and micronutrients (if nose-to-tail eating is practiced).
CaveatsCan be very restrictive. Micronutrient deficiencies (e.g., magnesium, vitamin C) are a theoretical concern, though not commonly observed in practice. May require careful monitoring of blood work.

The speaker acknowledges the therapeutic potential of carnivore diets, particularly for individuals suffering from autoimmune disorders. He views it as the 'ultimate elimination diet,' which can help identify and remove dietary triggers. While a strict carnivore diet (meat and water only) might seem nutritionally incomplete, he notes that vitamin C deficiency is surprisingly not observed, especially if nose-to-tail eating (including organ meats) is practiced. Magnesium levels, however, can trend low, suggesting potential supplementation needs. He believes that a fatty carnivore diet, especially when combined with caloric restriction, can induce ketosis, which contributes to its therapeutic effects. The speaker finds the anecdotal evidence from individuals who have seen significant improvements in their conditions, such as vitiligo, to be compelling, even if large-scale clinical trials are lacking.

Mechanism

Acts as an ultimate elimination diet, removing plant-based compounds that might trigger autoimmune responses. If sufficiently fatty and calorically restricted, it can induce ketosis, which has anti-inflammatory effects.

Personal experience

I get an inbox full of people that say, "Hey, look, I had this condition or that condition. I follow carnivore and here's my blood work." And I can't argue with that.

I'm a firm believer that uh carnivore diets can be therapeutic for people who have autoimmune disorders.

Also said
“You're have enough protein to build muscle. uh protein has pretty much or you know um steak and an animal-based protein diet has pretty much all the micronutrients. I mean you could argue you could argue maybe uh vitamin C and magnesium but you do not see vitamin C deficiency in people that are on carnivore diets surprisingly.”— Addresses common concerns about micronutrient deficiencies on a carnivore diet.
“I've seen magnesium trending low although we don't have the best magnesium you know measurements but uh or the blood work for but I've seen uh magnesium being beneficial for people because magnesium is something it's you we get it from chlorophyll right it's like the central molecule of the of chlorophyll right magnesium uh and we're not getting any of that really with a ketogenic diet or very little”— Suggests a specific micronutrient that might need attention on a carnivore diet.

Using Exogenous Ketones for Ketogenic Diet Transition

WhatConsuming ketone electrolytes (ketone salts) to ease the transition into nutritional ketosis.
WhenWhen starting a ketogenic diet.
DoseOne packet (e.g., Audacious Nutrition Keto Start, 6-10g BHB) can elevate ketones for 4-6 hours. Dosage can be adjusted based on individual response and desired ketone levels (aiming for 1-2 mmol/L).
For whomAnyone initiating a ketogenic diet, especially those prone to 'keto flu' symptoms.
WhyMitigates the 'keto flu' symptoms (brain fog, fatigue, orthostatic hypotension) by providing an immediate alternative fuel source and replenishing electrolytes lost due to the diuretic and natriuretic effects of carbohydrate restriction.
CaveatsHigher ketone levels (above 2-3 mmol/L from supplements) can be problematic, potentially causing energy toxicity, insulin spikes, and acidosis. Ketone salts are generally safer than ketone esters in this regard.

The speaker strongly recommends using exogenous ketone electrolytes (ketone salts) to facilitate the transition into a ketogenic diet. This practice helps mitigate the unpleasant symptoms of the 'keto flu,' which include brain fog, fatigue, and orthostatic hypotension. These symptoms arise because, in the early stages of carbohydrate restriction, glucose levels drop before the body's endogenous ketone production fully ramps up, creating an 'energetic gap' in the brain. Additionally, carbohydrate restriction has a natriuretic and diuretic effect, leading to the loss of sodium and water, which can cause electrolyte imbalances. Ketone salts address both issues by providing an immediate source of beta-hydroxybutyrate (BHB) for brain energy and replenishing crucial electrolytes. The speaker notes that ketone salts have an advantage over ketone esters in that they do not cause a rapid insulin spike or significant glucose lowering, making them a safer and more stable option for this purpose. He suggests aiming for blood ketone levels of 1-2 mmol/L, as higher levels from supplements can lead to 'energy toxicity' and other issues.

Mechanism

Ketone salts provide beta-hydroxybutyrate (BHB) directly, which the brain can use for energy, bridging the gap before the body fully adapts to endogenous ketone production. The electrolytes (sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium) counteract the diuretic effect of carbohydrate restriction, preventing dehydration and electrolyte imbalances that cause 'keto flu' symptoms. Unlike some ketone esters, ketone salts do not cause a rapid insulin spike or significant glucose lowering.

Personal experience

I've done this dozens of times, but I it's interesting. If I'm sitting in my car and driving, I had a road trip and I drank it and I had my CKM on. It was elevated for like four to six hours and I was like super like hyperfocused driving and it was great.

You could avert a lot of this simply by using ketone electrolytes right so uh like the stuff that I gave you right so the key to start so that's you know electrolytes similar blend as element but bound to beta hydroxybutyrate consume that when you start the diet And that'll largely mitigate two things. It'll mitigate the electrolytes uh which you dump a ketogenic diet has a naturetic effect which means you dump uh sodium and a diuretic effect.

Also said
“So you have the energetic effects. If you do a FG PET scan, you're going to see like less brain glucose, you know, utilization for one thing. And then you have uh with the keto you have the contraction of plasma volume because as you lose water and electrolytes so that you might have orthostatic hypotension, you just don't you get the brain fog and then you have electrolytes which are literally like molecules that are involved in action potentials in keeping membrane potentials in cells.”— Explains the physiological mechanisms behind 'keto flu' symptoms.
“The salt does not produce that effect at all so for a number of different reasons I think uh it's not the rate of rise of ketones in the bloodstream seem to be the predictor of if you're going to release insulin for one thing and then there's something about the electrolytes too that maybe delays gastric absorption and with the salts you're just not getting that elevation of ketones that's as high and as rapid as you would get with a ketoneester.”— Compares ketone salts to esters, highlighting the safety and stability advantages of salts.

Situational Fasting

WhatUsing fasting strategically for specific benefits rather than as a default daily practice.
WhenDuring periods of inflammation (e.g., shingles, herpes simplex flare-up), GI issues, travel, or when needing enhanced cognitive focus (e.g., for grant writing, paperwork).
DoseHalf a day or more, as needed.
For whomIndividuals who are metabolically flexible and want to leverage fasting for specific acute benefits.
WhyFasting can enhance cognitive function and reduce inflammation, but its benefits may be maximized when used situationally rather than continuously, especially for metabolically flexible individuals.
CaveatsNot recommended as a default daily practice. Individual responses may vary.

The speaker advocates for situational fasting, rather than making it a default daily practice. He suggests using fasting strategically when specific benefits are desired, such as during inflammatory events (e.g., shingles, herpes simplex flare-ups), for gastrointestinal issues, or when needing heightened cognitive focus for demanding tasks like grant writing or paperwork. His personal experience indicates that fasting for half a day or more in these situations makes him 'sharper.' He believes that for metabolically flexible individuals, this targeted approach can yield more benefits than continuous fasting, as the body can efficiently switch to alternative fuel sources when needed, providing a cognitive boost and reducing inflammation.

Mechanism

Fasting induces metabolic shifts that can reduce inflammation and improve cognitive clarity. For metabolically flexible individuals, the body can efficiently switch to fat and ketone utilization, providing a stable energy source for the brain.

Personal experience

I use fasting very situationally and that's what I recommend to people. It shouldn't be your default. I shouldn't be like, you know, fasting every day because I think the more you do it, uh, the easier it gets. But I think you can actually maybe derive more benefits situationally if you have an inflammation event.

I use fasting very situationally and that's what I recommend to people. It shouldn't be your default.

Also said
“or if they're traveling or for me when I'm just, you know, bogged down with a lot of uh paperwork, grant reviews, writing grants or something, I'll I'll fast through for half of the day or more of the day and I'm just sharper, you know, and just using situationally.”— Provides specific examples of when situational fasting is personally beneficial.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Ketogenic Diet for Anorexia Nervosa

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A ketogenic diet, combined with ketamine, has shown promising results in case reports for putting anorexia into remission, challenging traditional approaches that avoid dietary restriction.

Why this matters: This is a contrarian approach to a severe psychiatric disorder with high mortality, as traditional thinking steers away from dietary restriction for anorexia patients.

Background

Anorexia nervosa is the psychiatric disorder with the highest mortality rate. Traditional treatment typically avoids any form of dietary restriction. The speaker was initially skeptical due to this, but emerging data is compelling.

The speaker notes that anorexia nervosa is the psychiatric disorder with the highest mortality. While traditional approaches to anorexia typically avoid any form of dietary restriction, new research, including case reports, suggests that a ketogenic diet, particularly when combined with ketamine, can lead to remission. This unexpected efficacy is attributed to the ketogenic diet's profound effects on neuropharmacology, hedonic responses, and mood stabilization, which are critical factors in anorexia. The speaker, initially skeptical, now finds the emerging data promising and compelling, highlighting ongoing studies funded by the Bazooki group.

There was case reports that combined u a ketogenic diet with uh ketamine and that put uh anorexia into remission. And there's been some quite a bit of buzz about that.

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“I was super skeptical because it flies in the face of everything that I know, you know, and I've we have one of the leading experts at University of South Florida, Diana Rancqu, I remember talking to her about it and she, you know, kind of was a little bit skeptical, but the data coming out and uh looks very promising and compelling.”— Emphasizes the speaker's initial skepticism and the compelling nature of the new data.

NAD Supplementation Efficacy

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The speaker believes that current NAD supplementation has largely underdelivered due to delivery problems and the liver's greedy metabolism, but new stabilized forms in clinical trials show promise for specific applications like oxygen toxicity and metabolic stress.

Why this matters: This is a fresh position on a previously buzzy topic, acknowledging past failures but highlighting future potential with improved formulations.

Background

NAD supplementation (NR, NMN) has been a popular topic for longevity and performance, but has largely failed to show meaningful benefits in human trials, leading to a decline in buzz.

The speaker acknowledges that the buzz around NAD supplementation has largely died down because existing forms like NR and NMN have not delivered meaningful or measurable benefits in clinical trials. He attributes this failure primarily to delivery problems, specifically the liver's highly efficient metabolism of NAD precursors, which prevents sufficient amounts from reaching systemic circulation and crossing the blood-brain barrier. However, he is involved in research with new, stabilized NAD molecules that are currently in Phase 2 and 3 clinical trials. These novel formulations aim to overcome the liver's 'greediness' and deliver NAD more effectively to target tissues, particularly the brain and muscles. He believes these stabilized forms hold significant potential, especially in contexts of energetic metabolic stress, such as oxygen toxicity, traumatic brain injury, and age-related NAD decline, rather than solely as longevity molecules.

Personal experience

I mean just I can't say what I'm doing now, but we're running experiments I think even today. Uh so there's different NAD molecules that are out that are stabilized forms of them that are in clinical trials.

I feel like the buzz over NAD has largely died actually I feel like people I feel like it's sort of underdelivered and most people aren't really talking about it anymore.

Also said
“It's a stabilized. You have to stabilize NAD. And I think that's important to have it stabilized because when you consume it, the liver takes a lot of it. And if it doesn't, you're not taking enough of it in a stabilized form, the liver is very greedy.”— Explains the primary mechanism for the lack of efficacy in current NAD supplements.
“But I think you have to take a dose that gets past the liver into circulation and crosses the bloodb brain barrier and there's a number of different stabilized versions of NAD that are in development and testing and some of them we're working on that I think have potential for oxygen toxicity.”— Highlights the specific challenges and the focus of new research.

Continuous Ketone Monitors (CKM)

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New continuous ketone monitors, like those from Sai Bio, are emerging, offering reliable, real-time beta-hydroxybutyrate tracking, though some still only measure the D-enantiomer and may show lower readings during calorie deficits due to rapid utilization.

Why this matters: This is a new technology that significantly improves the ability to track ketosis continuously, offering insights into ketone production and utilization dynamics.

Background

Historically, ketone tracking relied on blood (finger prick), urine, or breath meters, each with limitations. Blood meters were the gold standard but expensive and intermittent. Continuous glucose monitors (CGMs) have revolutionized glucose tracking, and CKMs aim to do the same for ketones.

The speaker highlights the emergence of continuous ketone monitors (CKMs) as a significant advancement in tracking ketosis. He specifically mentions Sai Bio as a company producing a remarkably reliable device that looks and functions similarly to a continuous glucose monitor (CGM). This CKM measures beta-hydroxybutyrate (BHB) and has shown good specificity and accuracy, particularly in the first week of use. However, he notes that readings can drop to about half of blood measurements in the second week. A key insight from using CKMs is that during a calorie deficit, blood ketone levels might appear low while breath ketones are high. This is because tissues rapidly utilize ketones from the blood, even as the body continues to produce them and blow off acetone. The speaker also points out that current CKMs, like the Abbott device and Sai Bio, primarily measure the D-enantiomer of BHB, meaning they don't account for the L-enantiomer or other ketone bodies like acetoacetate and acetone, which could lead to an underestimation of total ketone levels.

Personal experience

I just switched out I was wearing a continuous ketone monitor and I am very impressed with Sy Bio. So, the first week the ketone measurements are very accurate, but the last week they tend to measure about only half of what you measure in blood.

I just switched out I was wearing a continuous ketone monitor and I am very impressed with Sy Bio.

Also said
“I do notice that if I'm in a calorie deficit, my blood uh ketones are can be very low, but my breath ketones are high. And I think your ketone production that you're measuring is a consequence of ketone production and ketone utilization.”— Explains a key dynamic observed with CKMs regarding ketone utilization during energy deficits.
“It's beta hydroxybutyrate. Yeah. It's important to uh acknowledge that it's the D anantimer or the R anantimer of BHB because there's supplements out there that are recemic.”— Clarifies what specific ketone body and enantiomer is being measured by current CKMs.

Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) for TBI/PTSD

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Rigorous, well-controlled clinical trials are underway at the University of South Florida, funded by the DoD, to definitively assess the efficacy of HBOT for traumatic brain injury (TBI) and PTSD, using a sophisticated sham control.

Why this matters: This represents a significant effort to provide definitive, evidence-based answers to a highly debated and anecdotally supported application of HBOT, addressing the lack of rigorous trials.

Background

HBOT has anecdotal support for TBI and concussion, but lacks FDA approval and robust clinical trial evidence, leading to skepticism. Previous studies often had flawed controls, making interpretation difficult.

The speaker discusses the ongoing, large-scale clinical trial at the University of South Florida, funded by the Department of Defense, to rigorously evaluate hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) for traumatic brain injury (TBI) and PTSD. This $30 million project utilizes six dedicated chambers and employs a sophisticated sham control where subjects experience pressure pulses during compression and decompression but remain at one atmosphere, making it difficult for them to discern if they received active treatment. This addresses a major flaw in previous studies, which often used hyperbaric air as a control, inadvertently providing some therapeutic benefit. The trial aims to provide definitive answers to the efficacy of HBOT for these conditions, which currently lack FDA approval despite anecdotal reports and some suggestive data. The speaker, while peripherally involved, highlights the scientific rigor and the potential for the facility to become a treatment center if benefits are confirmed.

Personal experience

I was not actively involved in the initiation of that maybe because I study the negative effects of fibra, but I've been like peripherilally involved of it. I saw I've been inspired by the work that they're doing and the level of scientific rigor that they're using to approach this question of the potential neuro regenerative and uh cognitive and just you know even mental health effects of hyperbaric oxygen which have been reported anecdotally but have not been systematically studied in this rigorous way.

The DoD wants to put a nail in this coffin. So they actually funded my university, University of South Florida. We have six beautiful chambers in a facility that's run by the neurosurgery and neuroscience department and uh my friend Dr. Joe Dur kind of runs the facility there. Uh which is putting putting a nail in this coffin.

Also said
“They have a sham. The sham is that they pulse the pressure during the initial compression to make you think like you're undergoing pressure but keep it at one atmosphere and at the end with the decompress they pulse it so you you feel a little bit.”— Details the innovative sham control designed to improve trial rigor.
“But why PTSD as opposed to TBI? Uh, well, it's it's brain injury, PTSD. So, it's just answering that question because PTSD is such a a huge problem.”— Clarifies the dual focus of the trial on both TBI and PTSD.

Recommendations

Products, supplements, and tools mentioned in the episode

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Keto Start

Supplement

A ketone salt supplement designed to aid in the transition to ketosis and provide alternative brain fuel.

Keto Start by Audacious Nutrition is a ketone salt supplement that the speaker recommends for its efficacy in elevating beta-hydroxybutyrate (BHB) levels without the negative side effects associated with some other exogenous ketones. It contains a racemic mixture of D- and L-BHB, which the speaker believes offers both rapid fuel (D-BHB) and sustained signaling effects (L-BHB). The formulation also includes a balanced blend of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, calcium, magnesium), similar to Element, but with BHB instead of chloride. This helps replenish electrolytes lost during carbohydrate restriction, mitigating 'keto flu' symptoms. The speaker notes that ketone salts, unlike some ketone esters, do not cause an insulin spike or significant glucose lowering, making them a safer option for maintaining stable ketone levels (ideally 1-2 mmol/L). He also highlights that the GI consequences often associated with early ketone salts have been largely resolved in this formulation.

vs alternatives

Preferred over 1,3-butanediol and some ketone esters due to lack of liver toxicity, narcotic effects, and insulin spikes. Unlike sodium chloride-based electrolyte supplements, ketone salts do not carry the same hypertensive risk.

Personal experience

I've done this dozens of times, but I it's interesting. If I'm sitting in my car and driving, I had a road trip and I drank it and I had my CKM on. It was elevated for like four to six hours and I was like super like hyperfocused driving and it was great.

Uh, Keto Start by Audacious Nutrition is Keto Start. Yeah, Keto. You can buy it online. It's direct. You buy directly from them. Is it on Amazon? Right on the I think. Yeah, it's on Amazon. Should be on Amazon.

Also said
“So, I mean, that's what I use and it's kind of evolved out of uh, you know, it was essentially the molecules that we originally studied and kind of stuck with even after, you know, looking at all the different”— Indicates the speaker's long-term experience and confidence in the product's underlying science.
“The salt does not produce that effect at all so for a number of different reasons I think uh it's not the rate of rise of ketones in the bloodstream seem to be the predictor of if you're going to release insulin for one thing and then there's something about the electrolytes too that maybe delays gastric absorption and with the salts you're just not getting that elevation of ketones that's as high and as rapid as you would get with a ketoneester.”— Explains why ketone salts are preferred over esters for stability and lack of insulin response.
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Keto Brains

Supplement

A coffee creamer supplement containing alpha GPC, MCT, and theanine, used for cognitive enhancement.

Keto Brains is a coffee creamer supplement that the speaker uses for sustained cognitive focus, particularly when working on demanding tasks like grant writing or lectures. It combines alpha GPC, MCT (medium-chain triglycerides), and theanine. The speaker notes that alpha GPC, while potentially beneficial for cognitive deficits, can sometimes cause overstimulation or affect sleep when taken alone. However, in this formulation, combined with MCT for energy and theanine for its GABAergic, calming effect, it provides a balanced cognitive boost. He finds it effective for long periods of cognitive work, suggesting a synergistic effect of its components.

Personal experience

I think it works good with caffeine. So alpha GPC, MCT and caffeine and maybe theanine too, which is um has like a little bit of a gabaurgic effect. Uh that describes a product called a keto brain. So that's uh a pretty good product that is kind of a staple product for me.

I think it works good with caffeine. So alpha GPC, MCT and caffeine and maybe theanine too, which is um has like a little bit of a gabaurgic effect. Uh that describes a product called a keto brain. So that's uh a pretty good product that is kind of a staple product for me.

Also said
“I use that as situationally just as I use fasting now. So I use fasting very situationally and that's what I recommend to people. It shouldn't be your default.”— Suggests situational use for cognitive enhancement, similar to fasting.
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Carbon app

Product

A tracking app for monitoring macronutrients and total calories.

The speaker recommends the Carbon app (and other similar tracking apps) for diligent monitoring of macronutrient ratios, total calories, and their correlation with blood ketone levels. He emphasizes that even on a ketogenic diet, calorie intake matters, and it's easy to underestimate consumption due to the caloric density of fats. Tracking helps individuals understand how specific foods impact their ketosis and overall caloric intake, which is crucial for achieving weight loss or other metabolic goals. He notes that he personally discovered he was consuming significantly more calories than he estimated when he started using tracking apps.

Personal experience

But one thing I noticed especially using the carbon app or other apps is that I was like I'm getting about 3 3200 grams of of or 3200 calories per day, but when I put it into these tracking apps, it's more like 4,000 calories per day.

Carbon app is great. I know you've had Lean on. I've used that. And there's other apps out there. The app tracking because you want people to be able to correlate the blood levels they're seeing with what they're eating.

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Keto-Mojo

Tool

A blood glucose and ketone meter.

The speaker recommends the Keto-Mojo meter as a reliable and affordable tool for tracking blood ketone levels, noting that its measurements align well with laboratory assays. He highlights its utility for monitoring the glucose-ketone index (GKI), which is a key metric in therapeutic ketosis. This meter represents an improvement over older, more expensive options like the CardioCheck and Abbott Precision Xtra, making ketone tracking more accessible.

vs alternatives

Preferred over older, more expensive meters like CardioCheck and Abbott Precision Xtra.

that price point has come down, but now we have the Keto Mojo which is actually uh aligns more with our assays and and it does the glucose ketone index that we can talk about.

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Sai Bio Continuous Ketone Monitor

Tool

A continuous ketone monitor (CKM) that measures beta-hydroxybutyrate.

The speaker expresses significant impresssion with the Sai Bio continuous ketone monitor, noting its reliability and similarity to CGM devices. He highlights its ability to track BHB levels continuously, even during activities like swimming in saltwater. While accurate in the first week, he observes that its readings can drop to about half of blood measurements in the second week. He also points out that it primarily measures the D-enantiomer of BHB, which is important for interpreting results, especially when consuming racemic ketone supplements.

vs alternatives

Cannot use Abbott's CKM due to Android phone incompatibility.

Personal experience

I just switched out I was wearing a continuous ketone monitor and I am very impressed with Sy Bio. So, the first week the ketone measurements are very accurate, but the last week they tend to measure about only half of what you measure in blood.

I just switched out I was wearing a continuous ketone monitor and I am very impressed with Sy Bio.

Also said
“It's beta hydroxybutyrate. Yeah. It's important to uh acknowledge that it's the D anantimer or the R anantimer of BHB because there's supplements out there that are recemic.”— Clarifies the specific ketone body and enantiomer measured by the device.
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Ketogenic Diet for Cancer

Book

A guide for implementing a ketogenic diet for cancer patients.

if you have cancer Miriam Calamian has a guide ketogenic diet for cancer.

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Books by Eric Kasoff

Book

Guides on implementing a ketogenic diet.

a lot of books out there by Eric Kasoff

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Denise Potter (Registered Dietitian)

Service

A registered dietitian specializing in advanced ketogenic therapies.

Denise Potter is recommended as a leading registered dietitian who specializes in advanced ketogenic therapies. She transitioned from conventional dietetics to ketogenic approaches, particularly in the context of epilepsy, and now leads a team of professionals. The speaker suggests working with such a savvy dietitian for clinical conditions requiring a ketogenic diet, emphasizing the importance of expert guidance for proper implementation and monitoring.

if you're doing it to manage a clinical condition, you should be working with a registered dietitian that's savvy and the people I recommend there's advanced ketogenic therapies and it's a team of people and it's kind of spearheaded by uh Denise Potter.

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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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The ketogenic diet is indeed a magical diet in the way that uh it remarkably changes our physiology and there's no other diet uh that exists that can for example manage drug resistant seizures and it does that because it profoundly changes our fuel system, our physiology, our biochemistry and our neuropharmacology.
This quote encapsulates the speaker's strong belief in the unique and profound effects of the ketogenic diet, particularly its ability to manage drug-resistant seizures, which he considers a 'magical' property not found in other diets.
I'm a firm believer that uh carnivore diets can be therapeutic for people who have autoimmune disorders.
This is a strong, definitive statement on a controversial diet, highlighting its potential therapeutic application for a specific set of conditions.
I think it's like it's it's analogous drinking 13b butane dial to elevate BHB is somewhat analogous to drinking alcohol to generate acetone or or acetate which is a great molecule. I mean Right. But it's a very indirect way to do it that comes with toxicity.
This analogy vividly explains the indirect and potentially toxic nature of 1,3-butanediol as a ketone precursor, making a complex biochemical concept accessible.
Higher ketones are not advantageous and I think potentially very problematic. Define high in that setting. We've killed quite a bit of animals inadvertently, you know, in early studies by putting them into ketoacidosis with different ketone nesters.
This is a stark warning against the misconception that 'higher ketones are always better,' revealing a critical safety concern and the speaker's personal experience with adverse outcomes in research.
The way to like do the clinical trial is which you know has not been done yet is to achieve and maintain a glucose ketone index of 1 to4 like that has never been done.
This highlights a critical gap in cancer research, explaining why existing clinical trials for ketogenic therapies in cancer may not have shown definitive results due to insufficient adherence to the therapeutic protocol.
I think inflammation is the major driver the more and that wasn't even on my radar probably the last time we talked or maybe 10 years ago but I do think that uh systemic inflammation leads to neuroinflammation and uh you know we know that if we take mice or if we take humans or take mice and inject LPS we can rapidly cause uh amaloid progression like and so those studies have been done.
This represents a significant shift in the speaker's understanding of Alzheimer's disease, moving from a focus on amyloid/tau as primary drivers to viewing inflammation as the root cause, which has implications for metabolic therapies.

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