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You’re Not Doing HIIT And That’s Why It’s Not Working
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You’re Not Doing HIIT And That’s Why It’s Not Working

Stacy Sims
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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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TL;DR

The four things you'd lose by not watching

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Inherent sex differences go far beyond hormones—they exist from birth, down to muscle morphology and molecular level, meaning women are not just small men.

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Menstrual cycle training requires tracking individual patterns, not just bleed dates, because many cycles are anovulatory and hormone fluctuations cause variable performance.

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Women have fewer fast-twitch fibers, so optimal training in reproductive years demands periodized programs with power/explosive phases (low reps, high weight) and deloads, not just 10–12 rep work.

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Perimenopausal women can and should do true high-intensity intervals (≥80% max, full recovery between efforts) because that polarizes stress, triggers post-exercise GH/testosterone, and lowers baseline cortisol—contrary to the myth that HIIT always raises cortisol.

Protocols

Concrete recipes — what, when, how much, and why

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Periodized Power & Hypertrophy Programming for Women (Reproductive Years)

WhatStructure training cycles into distinct phases: power blocks (low reps, high weight, explosive movements) to target the glycolytic system, hypertrophy blocks (higher reps), and scheduled deload weeks.
WhenThroughout reproductive years (20s–30s, pre-perimenopause) as an ongoing periodized plan.
DosePower phase: lower rep ranges (e.g., 1–5 reps), max effort; hypertrophy: 8–12 reps; deload as needed (every 4–6 weeks). No fixed weekly frequency given—depends on program design.
For whomWomen in their reproductive years (pre-perimenopause, typically 20s and 30s) looking to improve strength, power, and body composition.
WhyWomen are born with fewer fast-twitch muscle fibers; without training the glycolytic system through explosive, high-force work, power and speed capacity are not optimized. Traditional higher-rep strength work (10–12 reps) builds mass and some strength but lacks the power adaptation.
CaveatsMust include true deloads; avoid exclusively training in the 10–12 rep range. This is not a ‘boot camp’ style; requires proper programming and progression.

Sims explains that in reproductive years, women can generally do what they want, but the undercurrent is that they have less fast-twitch muscle. If you only train in the 10–12 rep range, you'll get some strength and hypertrophy, but you'll miss the power and speed adaptations that come from lower rep, explosive work. She advocates for a periodized approach where you have times of power emphasis—lower reps, heavier weights, plyometrics—alternating with hypertrophy phases and dedicated deloading. This approach contrasts with the steady state of many commercial gym classes and ensures that the innate muscle fiber composition is optimally challenged. She ties this into the need for structure, not just calorie burn, and notes that without this, women will not achieve the same power gains.

Mechanism

Women have a lower proportion of type II (fast-twitch) fibers compared to men from birth. To develop power and explosiveness, the glycolytic energy system must be stressed via low-rep, high-load/explosive work. Periodization rotates the training stimulus to prevent plateaus and allows the neuromuscular system to adapt while managing fatigue.

Women are born with and have less fast-twitch fibers. So, if we're trying to maintain power or power, become faster, then we really need to work on that glycolytic system. So that's your lower reps, your higher weights, doing more explosive work.

Also said
“We see that if you are doing the higher rep range of 10 to 12 in the strength training arena, you're going to get some strength, you're going to build some mass, but it's not as optimal as if we are periodizing, right?”— Highlights that 10–12 rep work is suboptimal without periodization.
“So we're having times where we have a power base, and we have times where we have a little bit more hypertrophy, and then we have definitely deloads.”— Specifies the three phases she recommends for a periodized approach.

Polarized High-Intensity Interval Training (True HIIT)

WhatPerform work intervals at 80% or more of maximum effort, interspersed with recovery periods that lower intensity to about 50% max, ensuring each subsequent interval is equally strong. Avoid extended moderate-intensity steady sessions that parade as HIIT.
When2–3 sessions per week (not specified in transcript, inferred typical; she only describes the structure), applicable to all ages but especially crucial for perimenopausal women.
DoseIntervals: at least 80% max effort (heart rate, power, RPE). Recovery: drop to ~50% of max. Duration of intervals and sets not given; principle is recovery until heart rate/effort returns to 50% before next effort. Do not perform long-duration moderate boot camps.
For whomAll physically active women, but particularly important for perimenopausal women looking to manage baseline cortisol while maintaining fitness.
WhyOnly true maximal efforts with full recovery create the top-end physiological stress that drives adaptations and, for perimenopausal women, triggers a post-exercise growth hormone/testosterone spike that subsequently lowers baseline cortisol.
CaveatsMust avoid 45-minute moderate-intensity classes masquerading as HIIT. In perimenopause, recovery must be even more strictly enforced so that every interval is as strong as the first; otherwise the stimulus becomes suboptimal and may elevate cortisol without the hormonal benefit.

Sims confronts the widespread concern that high-intensity interval training spikes cortisol, especially in perimenopausal women. She clarifies that the problem isn't true HIIT, but the pervasive moderate-intensity classes that leave people 'completely slammed.' That moderate grind can perpetuate baseline cortisol elevation without the beneficial hormonal cascade. By polarizing intensity to true max intervals and complete recovery, the hormonal response shifts: growth hormone and testosterone rise post-exercise, which then drops cortisol. In perimenopause, baseline cortisol is already high, but this protocol can lower the new baseline over time, as evidenced by reductions in resting heart rate. She stresses that as women age, the recovery between intervals must be even more disciplined to maintain the quality of each effort, ensuring the stimulus for adaptation remains. This is a clear departure from the standard boot camp model and requires intentional programming.

Mechanism

When you hit ≥80% max, you recruit high-threshold motor units and stress the anaerobic systems. The following recovery allows clearance of metabolites and restoration of intensity capability. Post-exercise, there is a release of growth hormone and testosterone, which has a downstream effect of reducing cortisol, lowering the baseline over time. As fitness improves, resting heart rate decreases, indicating reduced sympathetic drive and better cortisol regulation.

When we're looking at high intensity work, we want to make sure that we are hitting 80% or more of our max for the intervals, and we bring it right back down to recovery, which is about 50%.

Also said
“As we get older, we have to be very on point that we're recovering enough between the intervals so that each interval is just as strong as the first one.”— Emphasizes the age-specific strictness on recovery.
“We have to really polarize it so that we get a post exercise response of growth hormone and testosterone that then subsequently drops cortisol. So, then our new baseline starts to come down, and we can moderate our cortisol through high intensity and the post exercise responses that we get.”— Explains the endocrine mechanism that makes proper HIIT cortisol-lowering, not raising.

Menstrual Cycle Symptom Tracking for Training Individualization

WhatDaily log menstrual bleed characteristics (length, flow), cycle length, and subjective feelings (energy, mood, performance) throughout the entire cycle to map personal patterns and detect anovulatory cycles. Use this data to time high-intensity sessions and recovery.
WhenEvery day, regardless of cycle day. Review patterns over several cycles to identify trends.
DoseNo fixed duration; consistent daily tracking. Focus on bleeding days, but also note ovulation signs (if tracking) and how you feel.
For whomAll menstruating women, especially those training seriously and those in late reproductive years when anovulatory cycles become more frequent.
WhyCycle-to-cycle variability is high; many women have anovulatory cycles where they still bleed, leading to misinterpretation of hormonal state. Without tracking, women cannot align training with their individual high-energy phases or anticipate low-energy days.
CaveatsDo not rely solely on the menstrual bleed date; anovulatory bleeding is lighter/shorter and doesn't reflect the same hormonal environment. Requires honest daily logging; some women may need extra education on ovulation signs.

Sims explains that while the menstrual cycle is often discussed as a uniform 28-day pattern, reality is far more variable both within and between women. Around their period, some women feel amazing two days before and then crash when bleeding starts; others are unaffected. This variability means blanket protocols don't work. Moreover, the incidence of anovulatory cycles is increasing, and many women don't realize they're not ovulating because they still get a bleed—it's just lighter and shorter. Therefore, tracking only the bleed phase can be misleading. She emphasizes that understanding your personal patterns through consistent tracking allows you to 'dial in' training, knowing when to push hard and when to back off, so that hormones work with you rather than against you.

Mechanism

Tracking allows identification of the follicular (low hormone) phase when many women feel 'bulletproof' and can handle higher intensity, vs. the late luteal phase when some feel flat. Anovulatory cycles lack the progesterone rise, which alters recovery and stress response; knowing this prevents mis-timed hard sessions that could increase injury risk or fatigue.

You can't just rely on our menstrual bleed because we will still have a bleed if we don't ovulate, but it's different from normal. It's lighter, might not last as long, but women don't necessarily understand that unless they've been tracking.

Also said
“If you're tracking your bleed phase and you're actually tracking the length and how you feel over your entire cycle, that's when we can really dial in training and times where we really want to be more aggressive and be more confident because we can see our hormones can work with us that way.”— Connects tracking directly to performance optimization and confidence.

What's new

Personal practice updates, fresh positions, predictions

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Women are biologically distinct from birth, not just hormonally

Stacy Sims argues that sex differences originate at the molecular level and in muscle fiber composition long before puberty, so the common assumption that only reproductive hormones create differences is incorrect.

Why this matters: Challenges the widespread but narrow focus on hormonal cycles as the sole source of sex-based divergence in physiology and performance.

Background

Many people believe that the primary differences between men and women appear at puberty due to sex hormones, and that training adjustments need only target the menstrual cycle. Sims pushes back, stating that differences are present from the developing fetus onward.

Sims explains that from fetal development, female fetuses have a survival advantage under stress, and after birth, differences in muscle morphology (fiber type) are evident. As children grow, divergence appears in cognition, reaction time, strength, and overall physical fitness—independent of pubertal hormones. She emphasizes that these are inherent sex differences, down to the molecular level, and then hormones are an overlay. Importantly, women spend more than half their lives (pre-puberty and post-menopause) in a non-hormonal state, so focusing only on the menstrual cycle misses foundational physiology. The practical implication is that training must account for these underlying differences—like fewer fast-twitch fibers—regardless of life stage.

It's not just hormones. Everyone kind of puts that in that box, but we see sex differences from birth. Even when we're seeing the developing fetus... we see that the female fetus tends to survive more than the male fetus.

Also said
“We see this divergence that happens. And it's not just because we have an expression of our sex hormones when we hit puberty, but also these undercurrents of sex differences. We see it right down to the molecular level.”— Reinforces that divergence occurs independent of puberty, down to the molecular scale.
“We spend more than half of our lives not in a hormonal state. We have pre-puberty, and we have post-menopause.”— Underscores that the hormonal framing is limited and why inherent differences matter for training across lifespan.

Properly executed HIIT lowers cortisol in perimenopause

Sims contends that the common belief that high-intensity exercise worsens cortisol in perimenopausal women stems from doing HIIT incorrectly; when intervals are truly maximal (≥80%) with full recovery, they stimulate post-exercise GH and testosterone release that then reduces baseline cortisol.

Why this matters: Directly counters the prevailing narrative that perimenopausal women should avoid HIIT to protect against cortisol overload, providing a physiological mechanism for a beneficial adaptation.

Background

Many fitness and health professionals warn that high-intensity exercise can chronically elevate cortisol, especially during perimenopause when baseline cortisol is already higher. Sims acknowledges that baseline cortisol does rise during perimenopause, but argues that appropriate HIIT can actually lower the new baseline via hormonal cascades.

Sims states that the disconnect in the high-intensity conversation arises because most people are doing 'high-intensity' workouts that are actually moderate intensity, like 45-minute boot camp classes. That kind of stimulus can perpetuate elevated cortisol because it lacks true maximal efforts and insufficient recovery. In perimenopause, the body is already stressed from hormonal fluctuations, so incorrect high intensity can compound the problem. However, when intervals are strictly at 80% or more of maximum effort, interspersed with recoveries down to about 50% max, each repeated interval is strong, driving a top-end stress that provokes change. The post-exercise response releases growth hormone and testosterone, which subsequently drops cortisol, leading to a reduction in baseline cortisol over time. As fitness improves, resting heart rate comes down, reflecting this adaptation. Therefore, the key is polarization—not avoiding intensity, but doing it properly.

We can do high intensity, but we have to make sure that we are doing it properly, not in that moderate intensity like the 45-minute boot camp. We have to really polarize it so that we get a post exercise response of growth hormone and testosterone that then subsequently drops cortisol.

Also said
“When we get into our perimenopausal years, our body's already pretty stressed because of all the hormonal changes. So, we do have an elevation in our baseline hormone of cortisol. But if we think about as you get fitter across the board of your resting heart rate, right? As you get fitter, your resting heart rate comes down.”— Links proper high-intensity work to improved fitness markers (lower resting HR) despite baseline cortisol elevation.
“If we're looking at how we're taking care of the intensity and the stress in our perimenopausal years, we can do high intensity, but we have to make sure that we are doing it properly... then our new baseline starts to come down, and we can moderate our cortisol through high intensity and the post exercise responses that we get.”— Emphasizes that the goal is to reduce the new baseline cortisol through correctly applied intensity.

Commercial group fitness classes (F45, Orange Theory) are suboptimal for women's adaptation

Sims argues that popular moderate-intensity circuit-style classes like F45 and Orange Theory are a calorie burn that yields some body comp change but fail to provide the polarized stimulus needed for optimal training adaptations in women.

Why this matters: Challenges the fitness industry's most marketed workouts, offering a reason why many women don't see the results they expect despite attending these classes, and frames the limitation in terms of women's physiology.

Background

Many women rely on these daily high-energy group classes thinking they are doing 'high-intensity interval training' to get fit and lean. Sims differentiates between the actual physiological stimulus of such classes and true polarized training.

In the reproductive years, women can do these classes and may see some body composition changes because they create a calorie deficit and some strength stimulus, but it's far from optimal. The issue is that these workouts keep participants in a moderate intensity band without allowing true maximal efforts or full recovery, so the hormonal and neuromuscular adaptations that come from true high-intensity intervals or periodized strength work are not achieved. For perimenopausal women, this insufficient stimulus can be particularly detrimental because it may raise cortisol without offsetting benefits. She contrasts these classes with a properly periodized program that includes power phases and true HIIT sessions, which yield far better strength, power, and metabolic adaptations.

When we're in our reproductive years, we can do things like F45 and Orange Theory, which is more of a moderate intensity, and you can come out feeling completely slammed. You'll get some benefit. You'll see some body comp change cuz it is a calorie burn, but it's not optimal when we're looking at really having a polarization to get optimal change.

Also said
“As we get older, we have to be very on point that we're recovering enough between the intervals so that each interval is just as strong as the first one. Because we're looking for that top end stress to invoke change, and we need recovery to keep doing that top end stress.”— Explains why the moderate, non-recovering nature of boot camps fails the perimenopausal woman.

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Daily Menstrual Cycle Tracking and Symptom Journaling

Practice

Sims advocates for women to move beyond just noting period dates and instead track full cycle symptoms to individualize training and detect anovulatory cycles.

Instead of using a one-size-fits-all approach to menstrual cycle training, she recommends a daily practice of logging how you feel physically and mentally, the characteristics of any bleeding, and the length of your cycle. Over several months, this reveals personal patterns—when you feel strong and when you need recovery—and uncovers anovulatory cycles that could otherwise be mistaken for a normal hormonal phase. By combining this tracking with training logs, women can time hard sessions to coincide with their personal 'feel fantastic' windows and avoid pushing through low-energy days. This practice is low-tech (a notebook or app) but requires consistency.

vs alternatives

Contrasts with the simplistic approach of scheduling deloads by calendar days or following generic cycle-syncing plans that assume a 28-day ovulatory cycle, which do not account for individual variability and anovulatory cycles.

If you're tracking your bleed phase and you're actually tracking the length and how you feel over your entire cycle, that's when we can really dial in training and times where we really want to be more aggressive and be more confident because we can see our hormones can work with us that way.

Also said
“We're seeing a greater and greater incidence of anovulatory cycles. So, you can't just rely on our menstrual bleed because we will still have a bleed if we don't ovulate.”— Explains the necessity of tracking beyond bleeding to understand true hormonal status.
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Periodized Strength Training with Power Phases

Practice

Sims strongly recommends a structured, periodized resistance program that cycles through power, hypertrophy, and deload blocks rather than consistently training in the 10–12 rep range or relying on group fitness classes.

Because women are born with fewer fast-twitch fibers, they need to emphasize low-rep, high-weight explosive work in their programming. A periodized approach—rotating through a power block (low reps, heavy loads, plyometrics), a hypertrophy block (8–12 reps), and a dedicated deload—provides a complete stimulus that optimizes strength, muscle mass, and power. This is a true programming strategy, not a casual gym routine. It can be done in a gym setting with free weights or machines, but requires a coach or self-knowledge to implement effectively. She contrasts this with the common moderate-intensity boot camp style that does not elicit the same adaptation.

vs alternatives

Versus doing 10–12 rep work perpetually, which yields some strength and mass but does not develop power or speed. Versus attending F45/Orange Theory, which is a moderate-intensity calorie burn that may produce body comp changes but lacks the polarized stimulus for optimal neuromuscular adaptation.

We see that if you are doing the higher rep range of 10 to 12 in the strength training arena, you're going to get some strength, you're going to build some mass, but it's not as optimal as if we are periodizing, right?

Also said
“So we're having times where we have a power base, and we have times where we have a little bit more hypertrophy, and then we have definitely deloads.”— Specifies the three-phase structure she advocates.
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Polarized High-Intensity Interval Training (Avoid Moderate Boot Camps)

Practice

Sims advises replacing moderate-intensity, long-duration classes with true polarized HIIT where work intervals are ≥80% max and recovery drops to ~50% max, particularly for perimenopausal women seeking to manage cortisol and improve fitness.

This practice involves programming dedicated HIIT sessions (possibly 1-3 per week) with a strict work-to-recovery ratio that ensures quality. Instead of attending a 45-minute boot camp that keeps you in a grey zone, you might do repeated 30–60 second all-out sprints on a bike, rower, or running, each followed by sufficient easy recovery until heart rate drops to around 50% max. In perimenopause, this careful polarization triggers the post-exercise GH and testosterone response that lowers baseline cortisol, whereas moderate continuous work can keep it elevated. It is a shift in mindset from 'more is better' to 'maximal stress followed by full recovery' and requires discipline to avoid the temptation to keep moving during recovery.

vs alternatives

Versus the common belief that high-intensity equals boot camp or Orange Theory, which she labels as moderate intensity that may feel hard but does not generate the same hormonal cascade or performance adaptation. Also versus avoiding intensity altogether due to cortisol fears—she says that's unnecessary and counterproductive if done correctly.

We can do high intensity, but we have to make sure that we are doing it properly, not in that moderate intensity like the 45-minute boot camp.

Also said
“We have to really polarize it so that we get a post exercise response of growth hormone and testosterone that then subsequently drops cortisol.”— Reinforces the biochemical reason why polarizing works in perimenopause.
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Notable quotes

Lines worth pulling out — contrarian, specific, or perfectly phrased

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It's not just hormones. Everyone kind of puts that in that box, but we see sex differences from birth.
A succinct rebuttal to the common oversimplification that only reproductive hormones differentiate the sexes; signals her foundational perspective.
We spend more than half of our lives not in a hormonal state. We have pre-puberty, and we have post-menopause.
Forces a reframe of the female training conversation to include years of life outside the menstrual cycle, which most advice ignores.
I think this is the disconnect when we talk about high intensity interval work is that if you are doing high intensity interval work, that you're going to perpetuate a baseline cortisol elevation.
States the common misconception she wants to dismantle, setting up her explanation of how proper HIIT actually does the opposite.
We can do high intensity, but we have to make sure that we are doing it properly, not in that moderate intensity like the 45-minute boot camp.
A pithy distinction between proper intense intervals and the popular watered-down group fitness version that fails to deliver the desired physiological response.
So, then our new baseline starts to come down, and we can moderate our cortisol through high intensity and the post exercise responses that we get.
Delivers the hopeful, actionable payoff: high intensity can actually improve cortisol regulation if done correctly.

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